Robin Herdman, Battle, East Sussex
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28th February 2017
Mark / Alisian. I have changed my email address a few years ago.
Re: Samuel Veness born 1784 - died 1849 of Worcester. There is no recorded of the whereabout Samuel Veness / Venice / Venes / Venis baptised in Sussex. I'm going to show you the entries of Samuel's baptism within the range of 10 +/- years.
1764 6 Jan Samuel son of Thomas & Elizabeth Venes at Brightling. He died infant 1764 11 March
1775 27 Jan Samuel son of Isaac & Mary Venis at Guestling. He died at Wandsworth, London 1854.
1775 9 July Samuel son of Samuel & Mary Venice of Ashburnham. He died 11 April 1851 at Buswash, Sussex aged 75 yrs
177719 Jan Samuel son of Samuel & Elizabeth Venice at Ashburnham. He died 6 May 1757 at Dallington aged 81 yrs
1794 5 Oct Samuel son of Samuel & Sarah (nee Stonestreet) of Battle. He emigrated to USA and died 9 Aug 1868 at Kalamazzo, Michigan aged 73 yrs.
It's the possible theory I have suspicious he could be born somewhere in Kent which I have not followed the tracked off the baptised at Broughton Monchelsea, Kent the son either parent of Thomas Venice who married Mary Arlott 2 Dec 1764 or Samuel Venice & Mary Owlett (m 23 Sept 1764).
In regards Charles Henry Veness's marriage to Mary Jane Lee at St Jude, Birmingham 24 Sept 1871. The marriage recorded show the name of father - Betsey, Tailor. It's must be given the incorrect name of the father.
I agreed with Mark to find the puzzle of John Bacon Veness the son of Elizabeth who was baptised 13 Aug 1848 at St Peter the Great, Worcester. What I have noticed the name has changed which happened in census return of 1881. Also, the baptised recorded of his children looks vague, in fact he has large family of 14 children. He was not closed related to Richard Veness of Worcester, but it's a distantly related.