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Veness Genetics

29th December 2017

Mark Grace:

Having received assistance from this site, I would like to provide a definitive update on my VENESS research and make a request.

Having taken an atDNA test, we now have definitive genetic proof that the Birmingham VENESS families are all descendants of the children of Elizabeth VENESS of Worcester and one John BACON of Osbournby, Lincolnshire, masquerading as “John SMITH”. The proven genetic links are not only through Birmingham VENESS and two of the couple’s children known to have had issue, but also through John’s sister Jane, where there are at least 5 US descendants of different lines that have provided matches back to John & Jane’s parents in Lincolnshire. This closes this particular case.

The origins of Elizabeth’s father, Samuel VENESS (c1795) and living in Worcester remains unknown. Members of this site have been helpful in providing elimination information. Currently, we do not believe there is evidence of SSX origins for him, but possibly Kent. It is reasonably expected he has origins somewhere in the SE of England with this surname.

My request, since it is believed that Ancestry atDNA kits have been popular Christmas gifts, is that anyone testing with known VENESS connections in the SE share their results.

Rather than burden this excellent site with genetic discussions, please contact me on my research blog, https://www.facebook.com/BirminghamBranchesFromNtoZ/.

Ideally, if using Ancestry, I will need your Ancestry user name and would request data is uploaded (from Ancestry, FTDNA or other testing companies) to the GEDmatch database.

Many thanks for past and hopefully future assistance. I wish you all success research in 2018.

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Veness Family History

14th November 2017

Carole Venis:

Hello Richard,

Just to say I have tried emailing you but my email has been rejected as spam by your email server!

Perhaps if you try emailing me first my email might get through Ok?
It's carolevenis@hotmail.com

Regards,

Carole

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Veness Family

14th November 2017

Carole Venis:

Hi Ann,

My cousin found the wife's name and date of death as 24 April 1612, Brightling.

Yes it must be fascinating, I've thought about having mine done too.

Carole

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Veness Family

11th November 2017

Ann Armstrong:

Hi Carole,

My family line comes from Issac and Mary too through Issac. I’m excited you have a wife’s name for Nicholas. How did you find it? I recently had my DNA checked and it was fascinating reading.

Ann

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Veness Family History

9th November 2017

Alisan Greeff:

Sounds potentially exciting!

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Thomas Veness 1781 - 1840

9th November 2017

Heidi Souster:

According to my records Thomas married Mary Davis and she bore him 12 children. He seems to have had two sons named James one born 1805 - 1883, the other born 1817-1884. My dilemma is which one is the true son as both seem to be married to the same woman Mary Cramp. Can anyone help?

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Veness Family History

7th November 2017

Stuart Oliver:

Hi Rob,

No need to apologise. All contacts and info welcome. In fact your note intrigues me as it mentions a wife for Nicholas and more children than I had before. Because of these contacts, I received other info but realised there are some anomalies in it; so being able to check it against what you have may help us all. However, I feel more comfortable with direct email, so could you contact me at stuarto@upnaway.com so we can compare information. Once co-related we can then post it up here.
Thanks, Stuart

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Veness Family History

6th November 2017

Richard Veness:

Carole,

My family line branches from Issac(1698) and Mary. They had two children Isaac(1732) - my line and Henry (1736). Looking at your list my information on henry is incorrect. I would like to correct my data.

This also opens another question as to where Issac and Sarah fit into the tree.
In your later post Nicholas (1560) is most likely Nicholas(1562) he had two brothers - notes>

Born in France, arrived in Brightling, East Sussex c1580’s

Venoix near Caen was a large Hugonauts province prior to the religion persecutions. Nicholas and his two brothers left Normandy in the late 1570’s to escape the uprising of the Hugonants in France. They arrived in Rye Harbour by rowing boat. Robert and Thomas went to Wisborough Green and Kirdford, West Sussex and Nicholas settled in Brightling, East Sussex.

Would appreciate details for Henry and his decedents - I can provide a copy of the data that I have put together over the years. email.
rh.veness@bigpond.com

cheers

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Veness Family History

5th November 2017

Rob Venus:

Hi Stuart,

I too am sorry for butting into an ongoing conversation, but I am also stuck on Nicholas De Venoix (1562) married to Jane Wade and father of James (1594-1689)
and their other children - William, Alice, John, Charles, Ann and Thomas.
Any further information you can give would be appreciated. Best Regards, Rob

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Veness Family History

1st November 2017

Stuart Oliver:

Carole, you are more than welcome to jump in on an old thread. Don't know how much I can help you but am will ing to try. At the moment I am in and out of hospital so may be some gaps in my replies. My wife is a Veness and goes back to Nicholas Venis, father of James Venis (1594). I don't have a Nicholas (1560) but sounds like maybe a brother to James. I have none of James siblings. Please email me at stuarto@upnaway.com and I will give you access to a book I wrote some years ago on the Veness Family History as well as the names I have and another contact that may be able to help. Regards, Stuart.

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